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Jeff SikesA playlist of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATmosphereConf</a> 2025 talks.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL47nQSDRhiP2m8RH_AM4NTWuzN3XA3W27" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL47nQSDRhiP2m8RH_AM4NTWuzN3XA3W27</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a>

Chris MessinaHad a great conversation with <a href="https://flipboard.social/@mike" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mike</a> on the history of the hashtag, why Elon is wrong about it, the future of social networks (vis a vis <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a>, etc), and how LLMs may intersect with social media moderation.This was a good one.<a href="https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/chris-messina" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/chris-messina</a>

@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:At <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATmosphereConf" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATmosphereConf</a><a href="https://atprotocol.dev/atmosphereconf/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://atprotocol.dev/atmosphereconf/</a><a href="https://atprotocol.dev/atmosphereconf-2025-talks/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://atprotocol.dev/atmosphereconf-2025-talks/</a><a href="https://cosocial.ca/@boris" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@boris</a> (one of the organizers) is talking in front of the audience. (Boris and I are both from Vancouver.)I see Fediverse people here. For example, <a href="https://social.wedistribute.org/users/damon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@damon</a> (of We Distribute fame) is sitting next to me.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProtocol</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeSo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bsky</a>

TizianoA great video about why <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> is NOT recommended as a truly open and independent alternative to mainstream <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/socialmedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#socialmedia</a>. <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@niccolove" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@niccolove</a> <a href="https://tube.kockatoo.org/video-channels/niccolo_ve" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@niccolo_ve</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/protocols" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#protocols</a> <a href="https://mastodon.uno/tags/thefutureisfederated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#thefutureisfederated</a> <a href="https://peertube.uno/w/kSCtZK8HVhK1xGhf54d6kJ" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://peertube.uno/w/kSCtZK8HVhK1xGhf54d6kJ</a>

ꓤ uɐᗡ :verified_hellion:lead author of ActivityPub <a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cwebber</a> is posting about <a href="https://hellions.cloud/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> and <a href="https://hellions.cloud/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> right meow<a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber/114194820571954617" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://social.coop/@cwebber/114194820571954617</a>

Fediverse ReportATmosphere Report - This week's <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> news:- <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> releases a protocol roadmap and a proposal for handling user intents - Tangled is a git collaboration platform on atproto - Blacksky is working towards Cypher, an AppView with local-only posting<a href="https://fediversereport.com/atmosphere-report-2025march-b/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fediversereport.com/atmosphere-report-2025march-b/</a>

Roni LaukkarinenJust found out about <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/FreeOurFeeds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FreeOurFeeds</a>, a campaign aiming to "free social media from billionaire control". Signed by... millionaires? <a href="https://freeourfeeds.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://freeourfeeds.com</a><a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/SocialMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialMedia</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://mementomori.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a>

FediForumOur friends at Flipboard are organizing a "Fediverse House" at SXSW in Austin, TX, March 9 and 10.They are putting together a great program with people such as <a href="https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pluralistic</a>, <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@molly0xfff</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mmasnick" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@mmasnick</a>, <a href="https://cosocial.ca/@evan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@evan</a>, <a href="https://threads.net/@pcottle/" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pcottle</a> and <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/pfrazee.com" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pfrazee.com</a> !If you are at SXSW, check it out!<a href="https://about.flipboard.com/fediverse-house/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://about.flipboard.com/fediverse-house/</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sxsw" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sxsw</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/socialweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#socialweb</a>

Émilio GonzalezA few facts and thoughts about <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> being decentralized or not:<ol><li><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> (the protocol behind bluesky) is decentralized and open-source, but is controlled by a for-profit (albeit fiscally a public benefit) organization, "Bluesky Social PBC".</li><li>"Bluesky" refers to a sum of ATProto concepts, notably the AppView (bsky.app), the main Personal Data Servers (PDS, bsky.social), and the Relays (or firehose, bsky.network). There are others, but they're the 3 important ones.</li><li>Anyone can run their own AppView, PDS or Relay AND consume the content from/get their content consumed by the Bluesky infrastructure. HOWEVER, not everything is trivial or cheap to run.</li></ol>3.0 A PDS, which contains your data (account details but also posts, likes, follows, etc), is trivial and cheap to self-host. Cheaper than hosting a mastodon instance, even, because it does way less stuff and receives way less requests. See <a href="https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds</a>3.1 An AppView (the presentation layer, where users interact with ATProto content) can be created by anyone, but the bsky.app backend is NOT open-source, so there are not a ton of options right now. EDIT: seems like I was wrong and that the bsky.app AppView is open-source: <a href="https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/tree/main/packages/bsky" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/tree/main/packages/bsky</a>3.2 Running a relay is trivial but expensive to self-host. This is because its purpose is to act as an aggregator for all the PDS so that AppViews can consume the data in a way that scales better. The Bluesky relay implementation (bigsky) is open-source: <a href="https://github.com/bluesky-social/indigo/blob/main/cmd/bigsky/README.md" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/bluesky-social/indigo/blob/main/cmd/bigsky/README.md</a> About 2.5 months ago, 4.5TB of storage was needed and an OVH server costing 150$/month worked to host a full-atmosphere relay (more on that later).4.0 To make a comparison with <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> (the protocol behind <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> ), the AppView and PDS is the same thing in ActivityPub, and the concept of relay doesn't exist. There are advantages and drawbacks to both architectures, I might do a future post highlighting those.5.0 With those definitions out of the way, some observations:5.1 A lot of users self-host their PDS, but the vast majority of users chose the simpler option.5.2 There are some alternative AppViews built on ATProto, but the vast majority of users visit bsky.app.5.3 There are very little non-bluesky self-hosting of relays, mostly because of their prohibitive cost. Running the bigsky relay is expensive partly because of design decisions for ATProto and partly because it takes ALL content from ALL accounts for ALL the network on the atmosphere (in this case atmosphere == fediverse but for ATProto). This is like if your Mastodon instance queried ALL servers for ALL accounts querying ALL posts. In the future, there might exist relays that don't scrape ALL data but only a subset of it, which would bring down costs, but it's not yet the case.6.0 So "is Bluesky decentralized?"6.1 In theory, yes, everything that bluesky does on ATProto can be.6.2 In practice, however, the most decentralized part of Bluesky is the PDS, where the user data is stored, and even that is not that decentralized.6.3 Will it stay this way? I'm hopeful it won't, but I don't know. ATProto is fairly new compared to ActivityPub, and the ecosystem around it was mostly built by the BlueSky company, but I expect this to change in the future. However, the cost of entry for things built on ATProto will always be more than the cost of entry for things built on ActivityPub.6.4 Things built on ActivityPub will always be more decentralized than things built on ATProto, because of design decisions from both of these protocols.

Johannes ErnstThere's a <a href="https://j12t.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://j12t.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> meet-and-greet that starts at the same time as the mostly <a href="https://j12t.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a>-focused Social Web Devroom at <a href="https://j12t.social/tags/FOSDEM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOSDEM</a>.Coincidence?On the other hand, the ATProto meet-and-greet lasts 30 minutes, while the Social Web Devroom is for four hours, plus there's a one-hour BOF tomorrow, plus there is a 2-hour after hours tomorrow. And I think the organizers had several times as many submissions as they had time for presentations.

Strypey"ATProto does not scale wide: it's a liability to add more fully participating nodes onto the network. Meaningfully self-hosting ATProto is a risk to the ATProto network, there is active reason to disincentivize it for those already participating."<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChristineLemmerWebber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChristineLemmerWebber</a>, 2024<a href="https://dustycloud.org/blog/re-re-bluesky-decentralization/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dustycloud.org/blog/re-re-bluesky-decentralization/</a>Oof. That is *not* good for the claim that BlueSky's protocol can be as friendly to decentralisation and independent hosting as the fediverse.IMHO that's game, set and match.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a>

Fediverse ReportThis week's news for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> and the ATmosphere- A lack of action from mods about well-known anti-trans writer joining Bluesky leads to community uproar - More information about Bluesky's upcoming subscription service - Multiple new <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> apps have launched<a href="https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-the-atmosphere-2412-b/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-the-atmosphere-2412-b/</a>

Strypey"The truth of the matter is: Bluesky controls users' keys, and therefore even if users "move away" they must trust Bluesky to perform this move on their behalf. And even if Bluesky delegates authority to that user to control their identity information in the future, there is still a problem in that Bluesky will always have control over that user's key, and thus their identity future.<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ChristineLemmerWebber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChristineLemmerWebber</a>, Nov 2024<a href="https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/</a><a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a>

StrypeyChristine Lemmer-Webber, ActivityPub co-editor and founder of <a href="https://social.coop/@spritely" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@spritely</a>, recently answered the rhetorical question, 'How decentralized is Bluesky really?'<a href="https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/</a>Christine has the soul of a diplomat and the technical chops of a master, so her nuanced take is worth the read.TL;DR"Bluesky and ATProto are not meaningfully decentralized, and are not federated either. However, this is not to say that Bluesky is not achieving something useful"(1/?)<a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Spritely" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Spritely</a>

Folker<a href="https://climatejustice.social/@BenjaminBuse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BenjaminBuse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Gargron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Gargron</a> Interesting! Does it plan to support <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a>? If so, only as a client for both <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#activitypub</a>, or as a real bridge like <a href="https://bsky.brid.gy/" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bsky.brid.gy</a>

Erlend Sogge Heggen<a href="https://blog.erlend.sh/prosocial-discourse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.erlend.sh/prosocial-discourse</a>‘An ActivityPub gal and an ATProto guy enters a bar.., and they get along great, no joke.’This is what good-faith co-creation of the Social Web looks like.The standard for mature conversation has been set. Let this be the beginning of the end for reactionary protocol tribalism. (I’m so sick of it, make it stop make it stop make it stop.)<a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> <a href="https://writing.exchange/tags/socialweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#socialweb</a>

Reilly Spitzfaden (they/them)"The Bluesky features we covet are almost always built on structures that were designed in anticipation of eventually treating the network’s users as a resource to be mined for profit. The question we should ask before incorporating any given feature is not: Can we do that here? but rather: Can it be done without replicating the exploitative structures it’s built on there?"<a href="https://destructured.net/bluesky-enshittification" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://destructured.net/bluesky-enshittification</a><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Enshittification</a>

David Bisset"<a href="https://phpc.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> and <a href="https://phpc.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> are not meaningfully decentralized, and are not federated either. However, this is not to say that Bluesky is not achieving something useful; while Bluesky is not building what is presently a decentralized Twitter......it is building an excellent replacement for Twitter, and Bluesky's main deliverable goal is something else instead: a Twitter replacement, with the possibility of "credible exit"."<a href="https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/</a>via <a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cwebber</a>

Folker<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Gargron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Gargron</a> If <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> servers supports both <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> that would be cool:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mastodon</a> users would have the unique opportunity to tap into <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/thread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#thread</a> users (275M MAUs) as well as <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#bluesky</a> users (20M) and of course other <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> users (1M MAUs).There are many governance and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#decentralization</a> reasons why <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#activitypub</a> is better than <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a>. But the main thing is that the different systems can talk to each other. That is the goal of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a>, not a specific protocol.

Steve BateThinking <a href="https://social.technoetic.com/tags/BlueSky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlueSky</a> and <a href="https://social.technoetic.com/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATProto</a> are the same thing is like thinking Mastodon and <a href="https://social.technoetic.com/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> are the same thing.

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