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xoron :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kkarhan</span></a></span> </p><p>thanks for the reply! far from being discouraged, i appriciate your engagement. i will try to be reasonably brief in my reponse to your points and give a general update on progress and objective.</p><p>&gt; scout out existing solutions</p><p>i have seem similar <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/webapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webapp</span></a> implementation, i think so far for "that kind" of chat app, the chat app is able to demonstrate similar basic functionality. for a wider adoption, the user interface needs to be more appealing, but i think its important to have a working proof-of-concept first. the project is specifically aiming to be a <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/javascript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>javascript</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/localFirst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>localFirst</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/webapp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webapp</span></a>.</p><p>a couple notable similar implementation to mine are:<br>- <a href="https://github.com/cryptocat/cryptocat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/cryptocat/cryptocat</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>- <a href="https://github.com/jeremyckahn/chitchatter" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/jeremyckahn/chitcha</span><span class="invisible">tter</span></a><br>(im sure there are many more, but i think my approach is yet different and unique to the ones i've come across.)</p><p>&gt; DO NOT DIY ENCRYPTION!</p><p>this is indeed a reccomended practice i have seen several times. here is a previsous reddit post on the matter: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptography/comments/1cint8h/what_are_your_thoughts_on_subtlecrypto_vs_wasm" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">reddit.com/r/cryptography/comm</span><span class="invisible">ents/1cint8h/what_are_your_thoughts_on_subtlecrypto_vs_wasm</span></a> ... tldr; the underlying implementation provided by the browser is the best way to go. i have implemented the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> using the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/webcrypto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webcrypto</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/api" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>api</span></a>. i aim to not use a library for this. </p><p>i generally try to word things in a way that users can provide feedback on features. the app is still in a very early stage, but has a reasonable amount of features. im generally open to requests and questions.</p><p>&gt; minimum viable product</p><p>what you see as the chat app is also the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/minimum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>minimum</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/viable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>viable</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/product" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>product</span></a>. i think its sufficiently demonstrates the basic functionality of a chat app. i think the next step is to make the app more stable and user friendly.</p><p>those other apps youve mentions ive come across before. what sets my approach apart is that mine it's purely a webapp. with what id like to describe as <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>p2p</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/authentication" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>authentication</span></a> over <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/webrtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webrtc</span></a>, im able to remove reliance on a backend for <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/authenticate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>authenticate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/data" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>data</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/connections" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>connections</span></a>. in some cases, bypass the internet (wifi/hotspot). while there are several ways to <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/selfhost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selfhost</span></a>, in this approach of a <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/javascript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>javascript</span></a> implementation, im able to store large amounts of data in the browser so things like images and <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/encryptionKeys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>encryptionKeys</span></a> can be <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/selfhosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selfhosted</span></a>" in the browser. while this form has nuanced limitations, it also has interesting implications to security and privacy.</p><p>there are many nice features from the different apps you mentioned and i think i have some unique features too. the bottle neck in this project is that i dont put in enough time to the app.</p><p>&gt; feel free to slowly ibtegrate them.</p><p>this is basically already my approach to get the app to where it is now.</p><p>thanks for the luck, take care and i hope you stay tuned for updates.</p>
EVSHIFT<p><a href="https://www.evshift.com/311393/are-cheap-ebikes-viable-a-revisit-of-the-hiboy-p6-electric-bike/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">evshift.com/311393/are-cheap-e</span><span class="invisible">bikes-viable-a-revisit-of-the-hiboy-p6-electric-bike/</span></a> Are cheap ebikes viable? A revisit of the HiBoy P6 Electric bike <a href="https://channels.im/tags/bike" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bike</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/CHEAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CHEAP</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Ebikes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ebikes</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/ELECTRIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ELECTRIC</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/ElectricBikes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElectricBikes</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/ElectricMotorcycles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElectricMotorcycles</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/ElectricVehicles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ElectricVehicles</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/EV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EV</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Hiboy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hiboy</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/motorcycles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>motorcycles</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/revisit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>revisit</span></a> <a href="https://channels.im/tags/Viable" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Viable</span></a></p>