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I wish OSI's @ed would stop misstating the facts:

@richardfontana & I published signed docs showing we agreed to #OpenSource Initiative's Codes of Conduct…
ebb.org/docs/Kuhn-signed-board
…Maffulli purposely conflates entire Board Agreement with Codes of Conduct — so his upthread statement is false.

@richardfontana & I ran on a platform (in part) to reform just 19 words in the canonical Board Agreement…
codeberg.org/OSI-Reform-Platfo

We agreed to & abided by all 3 of #OSI''s Codes of Conduct.

When I started my journey in FOSS I came very much in on the Open Source side of the portmanteau.

I've moved over to the Free Software side. The organisations that represent our communities have let us down, badly.

As I said in mirror mirror:

"Some of us, who were attracted to FOSS for explicitly ethical, and political reasons appear to have misunderstood what the movement was about."

onepict.com/20250119-cobbles.h

With the recent #OSI election shenanigans, the fairy tale of FOSS is over.

www.onepict.comThe Cobbles:Mirror Mirror
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“On the meta-level, having that as a positively asserted community value would have made it far more difficult for the Marxists/wokies to do their entryism thing. They would have been recognized as a fundamentally toxic phenomenon sooner. Failure of leadership on my part. …on this I screwed up, and I feel bad about it.” — @esrtweet ( x.com/esrtweet/status/18868943 )

X (formerly Twitter)Eric S. Raymond (@esrtweet) on XOne of my regrets about my years of being Mr. Famous Guy, when I had maximum leadership leverage, is that I didn't foresee the political threat to open source. I thought it was enough to be apolitical, invite everybody to be part of our development community, and that everybody

x.com/esrtweet/status/18868943

“One of my regrets about my years of being Mr. Famous Guy, when I had maximum leadership leverage, is that I didn't foresee the political threat to open source.
I thought it was enough to be apolitical, invite everybody to be part of our development community, and that everybody would continue to keep politics out of the coding. Including even my own libertarian politics.
If I had known what was coming, I would have made a big deal about insisting that the open source community had to have one positive political value: free speech and opposition to censorship. That would have been justified on the object level, because we can't function when those political conditions are violated.” — @esrtweet (x.com) @esrtweet

X (formerly Twitter)Eric S. Raymond (@esrtweet) on XOne of my regrets about my years of being Mr. Famous Guy, when I had maximum leadership leverage, is that I didn't foresee the political threat to open source. I thought it was enough to be apolitical, invite everybody to be part of our development community, and that everybody

The @osi and the @openfuture just released a joint white paper: “Data Governance in Open Source AI: Enabling Responsible and Systematic Access” :
opensource.org/data-governance

For background on the #OSI's journey to defining #opensource #AI and the new white paper, see the fireside chat I held with the OSI's Executive Director @ed this week:
youtube.com/watch?v=DIcv2YbFC6

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Update. "If you believe Mark Zuckerberg, #Meta's #AI large language model (#LLM) Llama 3 is #OpenSource. It's not. The Open Source Initiative (#OSI, @osi) spells it out in the Open Source Definition, and Llama 3's license – with clauses on litigation and branding – flunks it on several grounds. Meta, unfortunately, is far from unique in wanting to claim that some of its software and models are open source. Indeed, the concept has its own name: #OpenWashing."
theregister.com/2024/10/25/opi

The Register · The open secret of open washing – why companies pretend to be open sourceBy Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

I am confused by the new Open Source AI definition not requiring sharing the training data.

From the official FAQ of the OSI: "This approach would relegate Open Source AI to a niche of AI trainable only on open data [...] That niche would be tiny [...]"

I fail to see the problem here. Wasn't FOSS a small niche before GNU picked up steam?

(Also, if I'm not mistaken, the word should be "trained", not "trainable". A tiny but important difference)

Can someone enlighten me on how this is a sensible idea please? I am open to different opinions on the matter.

#AI#FOSS#OSAI

«Open Source Initiative legt KI-Definition vor:
Die Open Source Initiative hat festgelegt, welche Informationen KI-Anbieter offenlegen müssen, um tatsächlich Open-Source zu sein.»

Den Begriff Open-Source wird schon lange für kommerziellen Marketing missbraucht. Was dies nun wirklich ist und was nicht ist von @osi¹ detailiert aufgelistet und erklärt.

🧑‍⚖️ heise.de/news/Open-Source-Init
1) opensource.org/licenses

heise online · Open Source Initiative legt KI-Definition vorBy Eva-Maria Weiß
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They posit you can still modify (tune) the distributed models without the training source. You can also modify a binary executable without its source code. Frankly that's unacceptable if we actually care about the human beings using the software.

A key pillar of freedom as it relates to software is reproducibility. The ability to build a tool from scratch, in your own environment, with your own parameters, is absolutely indispensable to both learning how the tool works and changing the tool to better serve your needs, especially if your needs fall on the outskirts of the bell curve.

There's also the issue of auditability. If you can't run the full build process yourself, producing your own results from scratch in a trusted environment to compare with what's distributed, it becomes exponentially harder to verify any claims about how a tool supposedly works.

Without the training data, this all becomes impossible for AI models. The OSI knows this. They're choosing to ignore it for the sake of expediency for the companies paying their bills, who want to claim "open" because it sounds good while actually hiding the (largely stolen and fraudulently or non-consentually acquired) source material of their current models.

Do we want a new definition of "open source" that actively thwarts analysis and tinkering, two fundamental requirements of software that respects human beings today? Reject this nonsense.